Thread: How To Make 1000 Dollars A Month From Bulk Mailing Without Sending Any Out

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This reply is for gatherer3 if your really interested in becoming list broker both on and OFF the internet.

Some of the top Gurus on the internet if you ever get to meet them or get the truth out of them will tell you that the interent is just a slightly different version online of direct mail and mail order which as you well know are both offline businesses......

People like Marlon Sandors, Bill Myers and many other others including myself cut out teeth offline in mail order and direct mail and whilst everyone has jumped on the internet because they think its easy and of course email is free, some of us do the reverse and sell internet products to our mailing lists offline, either from the lists we have built up over the years or from lists that we have rented for a one time use and mail from a list broker.

Yes you read that right......both offline and online list brokers will rent you the use of their mailing lists or mailing lists that they manage for a fee of x amount agreed between you, it can be as little as 10usd per thousand names or as much as 1000usd per 100 names depending on the type or quality of the lists.

Mail order is normally a two time shot, salesletter or teaser letter out , wait for the replies then send out the full sales message and wait for the orders.

Direct mail is as it suggests more direct and less moves to get your money in...but both are a science and both mirror the internet with the exception that because email is free they think its easier to make money, sorry its the other way around

because of the offline mialing costs means less competition but higher starting costs, most people think they will get on the internet but forget that they are leaving over half their profits offline.

That was just a little background to fill you in on how it all works for list brokers...but believe it or not you can buy or rent names and addresses off and on the internet.

List brokers manage other peoples lists and their own, its easy repeat business when you build it up and before any asks it has nothing to do with co reg leads etc.

You could take it to the next stage and contact newsletter owners and manage their adverts for them, you attract the advertisers and take your cut, thats just another vsersion of a list brokers job....offline an advertising agent would do that job.

Anyway hope that helps you a little

and here's some more information on leadgeneration:

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Nicho thanks for the info your posting, I've learned more in 2 pages then reading most of the other crap floating around out there. As soon as I can read sigs I'll be sure to check out your Listbroker setup.

Sup all,

I am new here, I am not a noob. Anyway if I do stay here you will later get to know me.

Nicho your system looks good. But i have a few questions for you.

1. Can I add leads that you supply to web-mail programs like aweber?
2. If I use a server based mailer, do they bring some kind of complaints?
3. Can i send visitors to a regular web hosting page?
4. Is you list growing or did you cut a list you bought into 100 pieces

Hi Turbo, thanks for the questions its always healthy to seek a little more information.

you asked.......

1. Can I add leads that you supply to web-mail programs like aweber?

I have never used aweber although they have a good name l hate the fact that l should have to pay a monthly fee for an autoresponder service.

You asked a really good question there about using aweber but instead of focusing on them l will talk about autoresponders that charge a monthly in general.

If l was aweber and l ran a monthly autoresponder service and you asked me if you could send any of your leads that had not been generated using my system l would tell you to go and take a hike as many of them will.

Here's the reason they just don't want the complaints...if the allegations are proven for spam the fines are heavy so they are very picky and would probaly ask you to ensure that you at least validate your leads again and get them all to become double opt-in leads which defeats the whole purpose because you'll lose most of them the first time you post as you have no relationship with them and its difficult to offer a bribe etc whilst your gettin them to double opt-in.

Another reason l would not use aweber or any monthly service is because you lose control of your database, if they get funny with you for any reason thats all of your hard work gone up in a puff of smoke in an instance.

But to befair to aweber and the other paid autresponders if you play within their rules they normally back you up but l have heard of horror stories like freezing your account as well.

2. If I use a server based mailer, do they bring some kind of complaints?
There are no free rides on the internet so you muct expect some complaints from time to time because the spam nutters are out there in their thousands and will do anything to mess with you if they think your spamming them.

So the way around it is to have full contact details of every single email you send out as often these people have forgotten that they subscribed and are basically known in the industry as tossers.....but a pain in the butt they can be.

So as soon as you send them the proof of when they opted in to any co reg deal they disappear into the sunset.....

3. Can i send visitors to a regular web hosting page?
You can send visitors to anywhere you wish its your choice but best to be sesible if your planning anything dodgy like redirecting them to an offer they are not interested in or asked about, l actually think that oto offers are illegal but it will take a test case to prove it either way.

4. Is you list growing or did you cut a list you bought into 100 pieces 4

Have to careful what l reveal here bt suffice to say l could name around 30 gurus who actually buy their co reg leads from me to build their lists up and we are talking sometimes 60,thousand names a month, so it is fairly accurate and easy to say to you that l have many lists and sub lists ranging from 500 to a list right up to 93,000 on several more but its not how many you have on your lists , its the relationship that you have with them that matters.

I don not reveal or ever sell information on my own personal lists as the samll print says under the data protection act.

Selling co reg leads to groups of partners is a different type of selling and that comes under list broking and as a list broker the lists are never ending in lots of different niches.

I hope that has answered some of your questions nicho

good post. i would like to have several businesses so i don't have all of my eggs in the same basket.

Nicho,

Thanks for all of the tips and info. Having been involved in offline sales/marketing for a number of years and now online, I know what you are saying to be true.

Many people do and will continue to mis-manage lists and then blame the vendor. For many new IMs, they have unrealistic expectations when they read about some guru making $40,000 in 4 or 5 hours just by sending an email to their lists.

While this is achievable and more, with a well-trained, targeted, quality list, it does require a bit more effort than people are led to believe. They need to understand that building a quality list is more than obtaining 1,000,000s of names and sending out a crap 'buy now' offer.

The concept is simplistic enough however and the co-reg system has been around for years. If used correctly, it will continue to bring results.

The percentages you quoted are about right for initial expected returns and I related to the sales lecture story easily. Sounds about the same as the one I initially received.

Cheers

I have had leads from your website Nicho and used them and they turned in some good profits just to let you know

Thanks great news for you l am sure you'll go on to good profits , but would you like to be a little more expansive so the other members can learn.....

how did you warm them up

how many leads di you send out

what type of product was you promoting

and any thing else you think would help