Thread: how do i know if im sandboxed?

so here is the story
i have a site that i get a retainer to do seo for, it is low competition for the keywords and not many searchs so it was easy to get in up to first place on google but i got very little on msn and yahoo which at the time was ok
i noticed latliy that it was driffting back and losing grount slliping away from first place it is a site a few months old so i did not see a problom with using x rumer on it i fired out some 15,000 links but although i saw the webpage go from 3440 links on the google search for the webpage to 5650 i did not see it move up...and it is not to be found with a search on the key words also i did not see any google links are yahoo bing alexa or any pr assiend to it.. for fair disclosure i did change and update and fine tone the keywords but since its low competition so i dont see how it can not be found ...and no links are presented with SEOquake even though it does have 5000 and more links in a reguler website google search any suggestion? am i sandboxed? the site address is
Rabbi Shlomo
please advise wizards
thanks

most cases of sandboxing are just you being in the Google dance, i wouldn't worry for now.

Originally Posted by semar

so here is the story
i have a site that i get a retainer to do seo for, it is low competition for the keywords and not many searchs so it was easy to get in up to first place on google but i got very little on msn and yahoo which at the time was ok
i noticed latliy that it was driffting back and losing grount slliping away from first place it is a site a few months old so i did not see a problom with using x rumer on it i fired out some 15,000 links but although i saw the webpage go from 3440 links on the google search for the webpage to 5650 i did not see it move up...and it is not to be found with a search on the key words also i did not see any google links are yahoo bing alexa or any pr assiend to it.. for fair disclosure i did change and update and fine tone the keywords but since its low competition so i dont see how it can not be found ...and no links are presented with SEOquake even though it does have 5000 and more links in a reguler website google search any suggestion? am i sandboxed? the site address is
Rabbi Shlomo
please advise wizards
thanks

Your not sandboxed, just checked..you are doing the tango with google, becareful not to step on big G's toes...

if you show up in a deeper page of google or if your not showing up at all and you were on page 1

main problem I see with people using xrumer is building back-links too quickly. If your site goes from a handful of back-links to 5000 in a very short period .... google knows you are up to something. Seriously.
What would you think yourself if you observed this kind of behavior? You wind think .... wtf is he up to ? how did he get so many back-links so quickly?

If it just so happens that those back-links are ALL coming from forum sigs or posts, then it's pretty obvious to the average neanderthal that there's some kind of automation going on. Big G is well aware of xrumer, and a high volume of back-links in a short period of time from predominantly forum links will most probably in itself be a form of digital footprint to Larry and Sergey.
The trick with the Big G is to try and make your behaviour appear as natural as possible.

Originally Posted by dodgydude

Your not sandboxed, just checked..you are doing the tango with google, becareful not to step on big G's toes...

hmm u mean using a software or not ?

Originally Posted by chrissyboi

main problem I see with people using xrumer is building back-links too quickly. If your site goes from a handful of back-links to 5000 in a very short period .... google knows you are up to something. Seriously.
What would you think yourself if you observed this kind of behavior? You wind think .... wtf is he up to ? how did he get so many back-links so quickly?

If it just so happens that those back-links are ALL coming from forum sigs or posts, then it's pretty obvious to the average neanderthal that there's some kind of automation going on. Big G is well aware of xrumer, and a high volume of back-links in a short period of time from predominantly forum links will most probably in itself be a form of digital footprint to Larry and Sergey.
The trick with the Big G is to try and make your behaviour appear as natural as possible.

That is the truth of Google. :)