Thread: Refunds and Religion

I don't give refunds for any software I sell. I'm honest and up-front about my sales policy. I released this as-is because I don't own Twitter. Sure, I'm a very capable programmer, but since I don't own Twitter.com, I don't make promises. That being said, I created this bot 5 months ago. A couple of people on MMD we're beta testers - but I didn't release it to the public until 3 weeks ago.

I have studied the evidence of the bible and it's history.
I have studied not just on what believers say but on what historical data and manuscripts and records from Roman days show the bible word true. I have studied the bible science statements which show information like (Only 1 example there are many ) the earth is a sphere and hung in space

If you discussing religion to question my integrity - then just say it. Seriously, I'm not sure why your writing about religion or Jesus Christ, or the Romans.

But I will say that besides the Jewish people, until Columbus in 1492, most religions and collective societies believed that the earth was flat. But again, that's not up for debate in this specific thread.

2) This bot is off the market next week to make room for a website that will charge between $500 to $750 for the same service. I asked Dr. P to remove it from MMD until the website is released. I only released this bot to demonstrate the power. Fact is, this specific bot is being sold in a very limited edition. Everybody else who wants traffic will need to buy a subscription to the website.

3) Everybody is worried about Oauth. I'm not worried about Oauth, rather opposite, I'm actually very happy that they are releasing Oauth. Watch the movie to learn why.



Final Note: I prefer people paying $500-$750 a month for services as opposed to a one time fee for a kick ass site that will drive them real users to their websites, products, services, CPA Offers, etc. For buyers, it requires I keep my site up to par otherwise they don't pay the next month. For me, I just get richer and richer every month.

@ Superman - It's people like you that have strayed me away from bots and pushing the business model towards subscriptions. You see, I get to jack prices up, get rich, but also offer a "refund" if you don't get 30 days. Only drop side is that again, instead of paying $1k one time, you get forced to pay that every month.

You see, companies that want real traffic are willing to pay. I may be expensive, but then I prefer to be "out of reach" for the small timers and remain an exclusive solution to those who have money.

So like I said, I'm actually happy that Twitter has changed to OAuth cause I don't really have any competition to worry about.

Originally Posted by tweetmaster

Oh shit!!! Hey there is no one more stressed then me about the damn bot!!!! I won't go into it,but Sharepro knows what I did to get the damn thing!! hell half , no all of you guy's know a hell of a lot more than me!!! But i'm not whining, i'm asking for help from who ever will offer it , and i'm trying to "Just do it!!!!" Trust me I am in a really bad position right now, but shit I rolled the dice!!! Am I a fool maybe, but Fuck if you didn't buy it shut the hell up! If you did, he said "as is", (maybe he'll give me money money back), no I'm just kidding, but yet not!!!! Anyway you know what,some times that chick you went home with was hot, and sometimes you wake up and run!!! At worst I'm gonna have to figure out some shit real fast, no I mean real fast, at best we can look back and be glad we got in now!! Yes, I am trying to stay positive!! It's better than whining,hey if we got taken then next time look behind you,before you walk in the room!!!

To be very clear, Superman is not a client. Never was a client.

Funny but nobody is complaining. I mean I purposely didn't release the Oauth work-around methods specifically because I wanted to market without it. I purposely posted no-refunds. I purposely posted 'no reviews'. So far, I've sold 50 of these bots.

I'm good at what I do, but honestly, I don't own Twitter. I may have solved the Oauth, but I don't know wtf they will do tomorrow so no, I don't offer refunds. Fact is, how many serious tools work for over 1 yr? Only the ones that are priced high to ensure they are not saturated.

A lot of people want to play with the big boys using $49.95 bots that are saturated all over the internet. Serious marketers understand that 1k offers them 2 things. 1 is the bot, and the other is access to other serious marketers (via the secret support part of this forum that customers have access to) where money making methods, resources, etc., is discussed. None of those guys are complaining.

On the bright side, I guess we're in good shape if the only person who is complaining about "no refunds", and "no demo reviews", etc., is the person who has never purchased - and doesn't understand how the bot works.

Originally Posted by Redhat7

redhats spiritual thought for the day:

studying somthing doesnt mean that you have faith in it, it just means you have knowledge. even atheists study and have knowledge about the bible and yet they dont have faith in it. faith is not a result of gaining knowledge, it is the result of applying knowledge. you can say you know all about jesus... yet unless you actually live your life as christ lived then you only have knowledge and not faith. as the bible plainly says 'faith without works is dead' (i'm a bit forgetfull when it comes to scriptures but i think its somewhere in the book of james)

As a fluent hebrew speaker, I will say that the Hebrew bible (in its original form) is far different in writing, meaning, etc., than what appears in Latin, English, etc. I mean lets look at "evidence" or "scripture" of "creation".

1st day God creates heavens and earth.
2nd day God creates firmanent in the waters
3rd day God finishes water and colors it with green grass and trees.
4th day God creates sun, moon & start.

Stop!!!! Lets go backwards...

How do you define a day? Seriously, what is day1, day2, day3 if only on day 4 you had the Sun, Moon and Stars? Seriously, I know a day from the sun and moon.

Lets go back another day - 3rd day you had green grass and trees. Well, don't you need a sun & moon for photosynthesis (light to attract plant growth) ?

I could go back and show you how every verse has a conflicting statement with either the past, present or future or some other verse.

In Hebrew, we have the Talmud which actually explains all of this. I mean you probably have heard of the 10 laws of Moses (10 commandments). Actually, Jews have 613 laws. You just don't see it cause you dont speak hebrew. That's not to attack you, just to point out that your evidence and knowledge is based off of your own interpretation.

As an example why the bible can never be properly translated to other languages other than hebrew - every letter in hebrew represents also a number (which could be a date or specific hour and time) or for numerology - could represent a tangent equation. For example, "A" equals 1 cause its the first letter of the alphabet. B equals 2, and so on. If you don't know the alphabet in hebrew, then you don't know dates, times, and equational tangents defined in the bible. Incidently, "Aleph" is the hebrew first letter - and also referred to as the number 1 in hebrew. "Bet" is the second hebrew letter and often referred to as number 2 in hebrew.

Combine the words "Aleph Bet" together, and you have the word "Alphabet" which demonstrates that English uses a derivative of our language to define their own alphabet. One thing about religion is that its based off of belief. Belief is stimulated from knowledge. Knowledge at it's root is derived from language. So with that in mind, your knowledge is a derivative, hence a watered down version.

But back to the point - I totally agree with Redhat. Religion is stimulated from "belief". Somethings you accept as "facts" and adapt to your beliefs and other things you deny as "fallacys" - which are also based on your beliefs.

Example: Parting the red sea for an entire population to pass through it. Hitting a solid rock that turns into water for millions of people. Walking on water or flying in the sky. Do you believe it happened or not?

I can have faith in what the bible says.Now you have the option to believe or reject but To believe someone or something without evidence is cartoon stupidity

Do you believe that a star came to earth to follow Jesus's mother while she slept in a barnyard? Based on scientific "evidence" - we all know that stars are large dangerous gas composites (often 10x's larger than the earth) that resides at least 100 million miles away. Fact is, the nearest star to the earth is Proxima Centauri which I think is just above the sun, hence at least 100 million miles away (the sun is 93 million miles away). The stars light that you see today didn't shine today. In fact, it didn't shine last week either. Rather, according to Nasa, it shined 4 years ago. So what Mary and Joe may have seen was the start light that finally reached the earth after 4 years of travel. I know, I just killed a 2000 year old story with simple scientific evidence.

But moreover, since you wanted to use religion for "facts", I imagine that if a star like Proxima Centauri would enter our earths atmosphere, the heat would have not just given Mary and Joe a sun burn, but burned the hell out of everything on this earth. Remember, most of the stars out there are just as hot as the sun.

Thus, the "evidence" presented before me allows me to conclude that if a star came down to this earth to follow Jesus, then at least more than "3 old wisemen" would have seen it. Am I anti-religious for making such an assumption?

But hey, I guess without evidence it's as you say --> "cartoon stupidity".